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Getting Down With Pound Town: A Roadmap to Pleasure for Women (& the Men Who Pound Them)
Today, we’re diving into the fine art of going to Pound Town—and no, I don’t mean a new travel destination, but I do mean a trip worth taking. We’re talking about deep, powerful thrusting—how to do it right, how to make it feel insanely good for both of you, and what most people totally screw up. And I won’t be tackling this one alone—my friend Andi is joining me to break it all down. If you want to last longer, hit the right spots, and turn up the intensity without turning her off, stick with us. By the end of this episode, you’ll know exactly how to take your partner on a one-way, non-stop ride to pleasure city. Buckle up.
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Do the sex Think fun, honest and feminist as fuck, and always with the goal of fighting the patriarchy. One female orgasm at a time. Welcome to the locker room. Today's topic is getting down with pound town. We're going old style with this podcast episode. This is not necessarily an expert-led episode, though I would venture to say you might be An expert. My guest, who is a very, very close friend of mine I would say one of my besties Andy, has joined me for this topic. You have met Andy before. If you've listened to my podcast this past year, andy, what was the last episode you were on?
Speaker 2:I want to say it was the one that we did, that was sexual ics.
Speaker 1:Sexual ics. So if you want to familiarize yourself with my gorgeous, smart, sexy friend, who also gets down with pound town, you can scroll back on my audio podcast You're going to find those episodes or head on over to YouTube where you can see our beautiful audio podcast. You're going to find those episodes or head on over to YouTube where you can see our beautiful faces. But I actually asked Andy to join me today for this episode because this is more of a situation where I've had a new experience.
Speaker 2:I mean, I was shaking my head when you said you had a new experience. I was like impossible.
Speaker 1:I'm actually having quite a few of them, which I also you know. I oftentimes, when I have a new lover which I did say at the beginning of this year I was ready to start opening up to the possibility of taking lovers you know, because of the content I do, I'm always like, oh, I'm going to be like the expert in the bedroom, right, which isn't. It can not be fun. Like you want to be on, you want to have this reciprocal sexual connection. But yeah, so I actually have opened myself up in more ways than one and had a unique experience for me, and I really think it's so important to talk about this because I think a lot of women are going to resonate with this and I think it's a topic men need to hear about.
Speaker 1:So, if it's not obvious what I'm talking about today, it's about getting a pounding in bed, and if you have been listening to this podcast for any time, you have definitely heard me and many, many, many of my guests bitch about how men like it's their move. They just go straight to fucking, pounding, pounding, pounding, pounding. Once the penetration starts. They're like fucking rabbits and it makes me angry. I have also shared a lot about how it's taken me years to really feel internal vaginal pleasure. I am one of I don't know something like 82% of women who absolutely couldn't have an orgasm without clitoral, external clitoral stimulation, and a lot of women complain about this getting pounded. Now my dear friend Andy has also. I don't even know which episode you were like. I like getting pounded now and then, like you have definitely been able to enjoy it.
Speaker 2:I think it was an episode where we were talking about, like, what not to do in bed. Because there are so many women, I believe, that really do not like that sensation, that feeling, that amount of energy that comes with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or it hurts or they can't feel anything and it's just like. Then you get dry and yeah. So so before we dive in, because we are going to dive in, after we do our little cheers here, that's what we're going to talk about. I'm going to share my experience with her. We're going to talk about Poundtown, what doesn't work, what my experience was because I went to Poundtown and I liked it, folks, it was odd.
Speaker 2:I'm so proud of you. I'm proud of you. I feel like I Milestone.
Speaker 1:It's a milestone. It's a milestone and fortunately, the person I was with recognized that as well. I believe I was caught off guard and then I was like let's keep doing this and let's figure out what's happening here, because if I, of all people, can enjoy being taken to pound town, then I believe it is an experience that I can help other women and their partners have at some point. And look, and before we dive in for all the men penis owners out there, this is not a get out of jail free card to go and just pound away the minute you get to penetrate a woman. Don't get me wrong here. It's just another move, another activity you might be able to enjoy in bed with your partner. And how can we make that possible and how can we make it so the women aren't just getting through being pounded?
Speaker 2:in bed and there's plenty of things that lead up to when that is the right time, when it's the right time to go to pound town.
Speaker 1:So Andy is going to be a little bit more of the expert here, because she's enjoyed pound town way longer than I have and I am going to look to her for some answers. So let's dive in. Let's talk about going to pound town. All right, I'm so excited to tell you about this, andy.
Speaker 2:I'm excited to hear about it.
Speaker 1:Folks, let's lean in for story time. I have been very, I think, vocal, hopefully throughout the three plus years I've done this podcast on how much I do not appreciate being pounded away at, and I mean there have been times when, maybe after I have an orgasm and so I'm already like moisturized wet, my body is woken up, where then I can enjoy you know, then I can say to my partner go for it, you know.
Speaker 1:But it's definitely something I've bitched about a lot. My guests who are women on this podcast have been like fuck guys, just think going at me like a rabbit is hot and it's not. But then I've had friends like Andy who have said I can enjoy that sometimes and I've been baffled. And I have also talked to other women who can't like getting pounded, like literally is the thing that sends them into an orgasm.
Speaker 1:And it's just been mind-boggling for me. Well, I have, I would say, taken a lover and, first of all, there was just instant chemistry, like instantaneous chemistry upon meeting each other. It was bizarre, it was like eye contact and then, oh yeah, like it's on, and this person, I don't know, for some reason, first of all, his package is, you know, a perfect fit for me.
Speaker 2:That is something that matters, right the fit.
Speaker 1:The fit, like I unwrapped his package and I was like, oh, I think that, like goddamn angels were like casting a light upon me and singing.
Speaker 1:It was like almost opening a box and you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:The light comes out of it and there is the package and I'm like that I knew, upon gazing upon it, it was going to feel good, right, and I was not wrong.
Speaker 1:Going to feel good, right and I was not wrong. And over the course of being intimate over a couple of different times, it was definitely apparent to me that this person had stamina, strength, a good thrust. And I want to say, on the truth is probably the second and third time we were together, he started to go to pound town and pretty quick, and at first, like that little part of my brain that was like going to get irritated or was more like oh, how do I tell him this doesn't work for me? Started to turn on and then my body was like uh, uh, uh, this feels good and I was like, oh, and I've revisited this experience with this individual several times and for fucking sure I don't know like it is real enjoyable that's why I say if you try something and you don't think you like it, give it another opportunity, maybe with someone else, maybe years down the line but never cross anything completely off your plate.
Speaker 1:I think you're right, and so I want to be fair. It's not like I got together with him and like he just sticks it in and starts pounding. That is not the process, folks, and so, especially for men listening to this who are like, oh see, pounding is like a good move, that is not what happened here, and why I want to talk about this is because of what I think I have personally done, and I'm really wanting to talk about this for women who are like me and their partners. No-transcript. Now, yes, I'm talking about sexual assault, I'm talking about rape. In my case, that's definitely part of it, but that is not.
Speaker 1:There are women who have never been raped per se, but have also had this physical experience, and I'm going to tell you why that there are a lot of young women who get into sex.
Speaker 1:They don't know, because we don't have pleasure-based sexual education.
Speaker 1:They don't know how to make it feel good, and a guy that they're into they've been told like having sex is the way to connect with them crawls on top of them and just starts pounding away at them and it hurts and it's uncomfortable and instead of being able to verbalize what they want. Because they don't know, because no one's taught them, they just think something's wrong with them, and so they become performative. And every time you grit your teeth and you get through being pounded or a sexual act, it is a trauma to your body, and a woman's body will try to protect itself in the future. Right. If something is hurting them, especially in such a vulnerable area that's tied to so many other parts of our nervous system, and it's experiencing pain, then the next time a penis inserts it, it's going to prepare to protect itself from pain. And if that happens over and over again, it does what's called armoring. Your vagina armors itself, it shields itself, it defends itself from pain on a physical level, on a mental level, on an emotional level.
Speaker 2:You know, the neural pathway has been connected right.
Speaker 1:Right the neural pathway has been connected, right areas and then reconnecting the sort of neural pathways to pleasure. It's a long process. So my setup I really think why I was able to have this experience. There are a lot of things. I'm going to take credit for a lot of it, but also I want to give my partner, who has given me this wonderful gift, credit as well, and I'll get to that because I think this is important for men here. Right, I've done a lot of work. I've recognized that. I'll get to that because I think this is important for men to hear. Right, I've done a lot of work. I've recognized that I don't feel pleasure when I get a pounding, and I've done a lot of work. You guys have been on that journey with me here on the podcast from day one. I had started a little bit before the podcast, but really during the last three to four years I've worked on it, so I've already started. I found my G-spot. I have a podcast on how to do that. I will be doing more work on that. I found my A-spot, so on and so forth.
Speaker 1:I still didn't like getting a pounding. I still wasn't like penetration wasn't necessarily the super exciting part of sex. But and this is where, andy, I really want to talk to you about it I think, first of all, the partner that I had, at least as far as I can tell, seems to be incredibly emotionally intelligent. He's like in tune with his own emotions. He's really good at reading anyone who's around him. That's one of his, I think, gifts. He can read the room, he can read me. I think a big part that's missing a lot of partners is they don't know how to read you, and men women, I think are much better at reading all of the subtle cues right.
Speaker 1:Right, he obviously starts with foreplay, foreplay. But foreplay doesn't start even when we get together. There's the flirting leading up to it.
Speaker 2:So I'm getting the texts the little voice messages, the yeah, right, the A little bit of dirty talk.
Speaker 1:The little sexy pics and getting good feedback For me.
Speaker 2:I like If I send you a picture.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Affirmations, or just saying just tell me how pretty I am, how sexy I am you better love it?
Speaker 2:You better love it if I send you a picture, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, if someone sends you a picture, right and just that flirting and that desire, feeling desired, building that desire the day of the week, of depending on how long you go in between, there is that piece of it for me. Really. If you've already made me feel like you desire me and that you see something special in me, well then I'll basically give you whatever you want. I'm what, by the time I see you, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like all right, I'm like all right, you could You've earned. You've earned a little something, but no, I mean, that's a real fucking. I get so turned on just knowing yeah.
Speaker 1:And like specific compliments, not general. You're so hot. I have been doing instructional videos on this stuff. Guys, go back and listen. Like you're so hot, doesn't I'm like? Of course I am. You know, I don't know. I think every woman should feel that way about themselves, but when it's something very specific, something you're hearing from an eighth grade boy though.
Speaker 2:Right, you're so hot. Have you not evolved beyond that?
Speaker 1:You're so hot, yeah you want something specific, like I love the way you do this, or that little freckle on your inner thigh makes me want to like the Cupid bell of your lips. Oh, something like that. Yeah, that look you give me when X, y, z, you know, and when it's something that I'm like oh, that is something I do and it is really cute, isn't it? You know it feels personalized. So a lot of that foreplay really is connection. It's connection, feeling connected to desire and like. As an individual, like I'm not one of many and I feel like this is it should be universal to any gender. I know that I hear from women a lot that desire, building up to meaning right and then keeping that going when you're in person, make you know that it's fun and it's flirty. There's glances at each other, whether you're having dinner first, or little touches, and I mean that is something that should be valued in a relationship, whether it's new or you're 10 years down the road, building the habit of noticing things about the partner that you love.
Speaker 1:And that make them feel attractive to you and verbalizing it, not just to turn them on right but to remind yourself why you're with them, because then you're gonna feel more aroused by them. You're gonna be like, oh yeah, she does that sexy thing. That just so her, and that's why I love her. Um, so I think that's. There's a lot of foreplay for me, so I'm wet by the time I'm there. I'm like fucking ready by the time I'm there because I feel so desired. But then there's also like the foreplay, the oral sex, the sometimes pulling out some crazy stuff to try being able to laugh through flirting and sex, and so what I think for me, andy, and I want to hear, I think, what opened up that moment, because there was a real aha moment. In fact, he even verbalized to me, I think afterwards we were having a conversation and he said something like he's yeah, I could tell you didn't want to like it, but you, you kind of did and I'm like I did, I did, you were right.
Speaker 1:But I think for me, because in order for me to have sensation and my vagina, which is pleasure there has to be, my body has to know I'm safe. Pleasure there has to be, my body has to know I'm safe, and so your partner has to inspire, and this could be a one night stand folks. It's imperative for a woman's body to feel safe, to allow the sensation and also then lubricate and open it, because the vagina, well, as it gets excited, it will do something called tenting, which is also what leads to women being able to be fisted and enjoy it. We'll have a podcast on that someday. But your vagina will actually balloon or tent it's been called some of the same things. So open and invite, invite the penis, invite pounding. What are your thoughts on that For you when you enjoy it? What are your thoughts on it for you when you enjoy it? What are elements that make that happen?
Speaker 2:the foreplay is incredibly important. The getting to the point where, when we meet up, I don't even want to keep my hands off of him, or vice versa, then we're probably going to end up going that route.
Speaker 1:To Poundtown.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:This is the path to Poundtown, folks. Okay, so then let's stop there. What are some foreplay moves that help you start down the path to Poundtown? This is key for listeners.
Speaker 2:I mean the way that they talk to me. It's, I like it like a little bit dirty. I need to feel like there's some authority behind your position. If you will, you like a little dummy. Yes, yeah, like that's not going to work. I mean, I think you have to be a little dummy to do that, to pound. Well, yeah, I don't know, I'm not a dom, you're not. I can't say that.
Speaker 2:But I enjoy that kind of dom energy being brought when we get into that kind of situation. I don't think I've ever been in a situation doing well. No, that's not true. I've done the pound town thing. Yeah, Not enjoyed it. Yeah, I the pound town thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not enjoyed it. Yeah, I've done it lots and not enjoyed it. I've just been like this. It's just fucking doing nothing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, or I'm getting dry or I'm getting like it's hurting you know, one of the things that's definitely most important is the paying attention to the cues while it's happening, not just before you get started, but while it's happening, and not checking out and just right which I really do feel, like a lot of men do, or a lot of men that I've experienced. It's like, hey, am I? I'm here, I'm still here.
Speaker 1:Right, right, you're just pounding, and it doesn't even look like you recognize that I'm here and I'm a body and I'm a person.
Speaker 1:I'm a person that you're doing this to just checking out. Well, so let's go to the cues. So you've done the foreplay piece. You built that passion and a lot of men are great at that, are good at the sexting. Even phone calls Like I love a sexy, desire-filled phone call, things that build the excitement to getting together. You're ready to go. You know you like whatever that physical foreplay is in advance making out, touching each other, kissing each other, hopefully some oral sex, because I like that little 69 thrown in there, that's one of my faves. That little 69 thrown in there, that's one of my faves. Little spanky, don't mind that at all. And then you know, you get to the point where it's okay, I'm ready, I'm ready to be entered, um, and it can be ruined at first. At first penetration like just thrusting all the way in, not okay.
Speaker 2:I can tell you it's always 100% going to be a winner for me when I ask you.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Fuck me, daddy. Yeah, pound my pussy.
Speaker 1:Right, that's a clear invitation. When it's like fuck me, I want you inside me, I think that's. I usually say that.
Speaker 2:When I'm ready. I'm like I want you inside me and that kind of hot exchange, and then you can feel them get a little bit more ramped up.
Speaker 1:But all right, do you want that first penetration to be full, like all?
Speaker 2:the way. No, God no.
Speaker 1:See, I think in almost all situations that is not you know, you gotta make sure you sure you got to do some other things before we even get to the point. But just the tip at first is a thing right, like the first little thrusts, because that's where your g spot is. Folks, make sure miss g is waking up and she's like come on right don't thrust past her. No, and for me and I think a lot of women don't thrust in and smack the fucking cervix that's, that's all over.
Speaker 2:Is that a thing? Yeah, well, I think some guys like that, because then they're like I'm so big I can't hit her for cervix yes, I have had plenty of sexting or sexy talk with men who have said things just like that and of course I I'm going, I'm like I'm thinking of a GYN exam and I'm like how is that? That's sexy.
Speaker 1:It's painful and that's the thing is like. That kind of bragging just tells me you don't know how to fuck Like. Now. There are some women very few, but who like the cervix, like fucked with, but my like A. I don't know anyone personally and I know a lot of women I've heard I've on the internet when I'm reading like different kinks and stuff like that, but I've never met someone who's.
Speaker 1:I love it when a man smacks the shit out of my, my cervix and and for someone who has sexual trauma, that kind of thing can actually shut the body down really quickly. It will try to protect itself. I would also like to say this I've had one experience in my last relationship where slippage happened and my cervix got hit so hard it dropped me and it actually afterwards I went for a walk and I almost passed out and there is a. You can do some serious damage. There are veins and nerves that go through the cervix that if you traumatize them, I was days, I was not okay. I was not okay, just an FYI, and that is something I will provide more info I want to look into and share more information on, because it was medically an issue. It was awful and, of course my body is going to hold that trauma in it and shut down should it experience something like that again. But I mean, that was an accident. Oh, it was an accident. Yeah, it was an accident, for sure, for sure. Also, yeah, really bad memory, you know, and at that time I still hadn't really, I hadn't really discovered my G-spot and A-spot. My vagina was not who she is today, the excited, aroused individual she is today, right. So it was sort of like re-triggering for her.
Speaker 1:And with this individual that I've been with recently, who I've had this experience with, there's no attempt at all Like there's no ego involved, and this is from what I can tell. Look, it's not like I've known this person for years and years and, as I have unfortunately discovered, it can take a long time to find out who somebody truly is. But at least in the experiences I'm having at this time, the signals I'm getting inspire trust. This person isn't interested in hurting me. It's very clear with their focus on how I'm experiencing things. You can tell when someone is watching for your physical cues, responds when you make a noise that maybe doesn't necessarily sound good, verbalizes, you know, desires to you. All of those are things that make my nervous system relax and want intimacy. Can you enjoy pound town without that sort of trust? Base level of trust.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's much better when I do feel like there is some also emotional intimacy and you can connect beyond just the fucking. I think it's much, much better that way. But I definitely had the you know one night hookup before that's just been really hot and heavy. And you know one night hookup before that's just been really hot and heavy. And take me and we don't got to talk about it and and what makes that feel good to you.
Speaker 1:I don't know that I can do it without the emotional intimacy I definitely have the.
Speaker 2:It's just, it's just a power thing, it's yeah, it's a but do you? Feel safe in that power dynamic when it happens, not always, but then maybe that's and I got to look a little more into this maybe that's part of what makes that so arousing and exciting Just the element of anxiousness. Maybe I don't have control over things Right, and I mean there's all kinds of play and kink around, that kind of thing.
Speaker 1:But have you ever had that experience with someone that you didn't know had your best interest in mind?
Speaker 2:I really enjoyed it. I mean, I think I liked it, but I wouldn't say I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I guess there are different elements that can come into play for different people, depending on. You do have a little bit of a sub kink right, to a different extent than I would say. I do. Like I enjoy, I enjoy. Like I'm a switch Everybody who's listened to this podcast should know that by now. Like I'm very switchy, I can flip depending on who I'm with with, but I would say, even in more of a submissive role I I think I think you can enjoy a little bit more of the sort of degradation, part of that right yeah, percent, yeah, so.
Speaker 2:I'm like maybe you can use knowledge for people to have. Don't push it folks, but maybe maybe do all right, maybe just exactly what I need. Maybe don't push it folks, but maybe, maybe do All right, maybe just exactly what I need.
Speaker 1:Well see, here's the difference. I'm like, yeah, I want to be in a submissive role, and then someone pops out with a dirty, fucking little slut and I'm like I'll kill you, oh, not me, I'll fucking kill you.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm like put it in here right now.
Speaker 1:That's the difference I like. I like the nurturing, submissive role when someone is leading me, because that's what we've decided on consensually.
Speaker 2:That's important to me too. Still, the consensual part.
Speaker 1:Of course it is and for me, yeah, it's. I I will admit I have. I am five foot tall but, as we all know, I got some big dick energy that sometimes will not get out of my way so I can enjoy being like. Sometimes I want to be like the not big dick energy in the room and actually I have started to find more and more enjoyment in that these days, started to find more and more enjoyment in that these days.
Speaker 1:But it can be hard because to find a partner that can provide that for me is super challenging because it takes someone who's really confident in themselves and not just like doesn't feel threatened by you doesn't feel threatened by me, doesn't feel intimidated by the content I put out or you know any number of things, and who can really just lead from, like their confidence in what they're bringing to the table and their desire for me and knowing that that that's going to turn me on, let me. Let me sort of relax and be led but be nurtured. You'd'd spank me, you can punish me, but then you got to praise me, right? I like that dynamic. I like that dynamic but and that's a turn on Definitely in this dynamic there's this individual is confident and confident, and confident because he knows he's pleasing me. I like this and that's all you know.
Speaker 1:I'm having new experiences and that's hot. It's hot to be able to relax when I'm able to relax into not being the lead. Here's the other thing we gotta get to is the moves. I'm talking about a lot of the lead up to enjoying pound town, the emotional part of it for me and for you as well. Like you, like that little scary edge to it, you like a little bit of the call you whatever right, kind of thing. That that's all the emotional, the start of the emotional path to pound town. But for me it's what happened in pound town and I want to talk about the activities in pound town that I'm pretty sure, I know it was not that simple, okay, all right, it was not that simple.
Speaker 1:We all have things to learn here, this human got into positions I did not realize existed for pound town and that.
Speaker 2:So he's like your human action figure.
Speaker 1:He was a little bit of an action figure, so here's the thing that was nice for me in order to be in pound town, I have to keep my my walls down and my walls open. You know which walls I'm talking about that need to be opened right, which means I I need not to tense up, and so that was the nice thing. Is he just he? Really? It seemed like a lot of work. I was like God damn, that looks exhausting. I mean he could squat over me.
Speaker 2:I like that, though. I like when it looks like they're working hard.
Speaker 1:Oh, he was working so hard it was, so it was hot it was hot, it was like but he also simultaneously.
Speaker 1:Somehow he was able to move my body into different positions while he was like I think I should. We had a girl sleep over last night and I tried to show them some of the positions. There's this squatting over me somehow, angling things down, this one leg kind of up, and then moving, I don't know how. He was like there's a discus thrower in there somewhere. I'm just saying I'm just saying somehow I was like then on my side and then kind of like you know, there were some like yoga. Thank God I used to do yoga because like then I was in some and then somehow I was on my stomach and then I'm on my back and then I'm on my side, I'm twisted this way, and so all these different areas inside were also being accessed and touched and stimulated right, well, I mean, if you can throw me around like all of that, I did get through.
Speaker 1:That was fun.
Speaker 2:You might be surprised at how hard you can fuck me and what you can get in there when you throw around when you get.
Speaker 1:I don't think I've been thrown. That was the other thing. I don't think I have been with fit individuals, but I'm saying this level of throwing that happened I have not.
Speaker 2:It was like oh, that is my favorite, and then like oh and very, very animalistic any of it.
Speaker 1:I really wasn't asking for anything. I didn't, I didn't have to. I was giving, maybe, like trying to give positive feedback where it was. I mean, and if you know, I did have times where I think I got a little nervous about I mean, cause I again I have not been pounded a lot and not to that extent and in my mind there was this like because I have had that awful trauma where I got hit so hard inside that it, I mean, I was worried I was going to have to go to the doctor. There's this part of me that wants to be on edge and worried about that happening again, and so there was a time or two, I think, where I like put my hand as a barrier where I could stop if I thought I was going to go in wrong.
Speaker 2:I've definitely felt it so hard before where I felt like I was going to vomit. Yeah, fuck that, that's not good. Yeah, I thought it was going to pass out Not in this case but in the previous one you're referring to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, where in the previous relationship where I got, I did end up having, I did end up going to the doctor after that one just to make sure everything was intact, and I think you know what's. What felt just really good is like the combination of someone just animalistically wanting me that way but somehow simultaneously exuding what felt like I was reading care for my well-being, some tenderness with that as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, tenderness plus pounding, you can have both, like you can have the aggression and the you know, but it's harnessed, and so then you're still seeing the benefits of I love you enough to do this with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah For you. Yeah, it like there is an element of caring, you know, and as I say that, I feel like it's so sad to say, because I do think that a lot of women have a lot of sex where they don't feel actually cared for, even with their own husbands or ongoing partners where you're like I know you love me, but this act doesn't feel loving, I don't feel cared for, I don't feel thought of, I feel like a body.
Speaker 2:I feel like you're trying to come.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and there is something about because he even had made some comment at some point about he's aware I like to to be spanked. And he's made comments like I think that he gets so passionate that he like had some concern over I don't want to do something. That then really hurts you in a bad way. And there is something that feels so like lovely about someone. Yeah, the combination of like desire, intense animalistic desire and the action of it, but also there's protectiveness in that desire, that combination of desire but wanting to connect you, but wanting to fucking tear you apart at the same time.
Speaker 1:Yes, that is the secret sauce to a good pound town experience. There has to for me and I know that's not for everyone, but there has to be that that combination of caring, giving a shit about what happens to me and it's me, they see me, I'm seeing you, I want you, I want you so bad, this is happening. I'm seeing you, I want you, I want you so bad, this is happening. But I'm also going to protect you. Check in, yeah, yeah, afterward Also, somebody having to restrain themselves while they pound away at you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's something really hot about that.
Speaker 1:Ladies, you deserve that experience. Men, you got to figure out how to provide it and I think in porn you see a lot of pound town shit going on and it's so overporn.
Speaker 2:It's a bad representation of how that is actually desirable for women Because the way it is represented on porn it is not Like that's. I've never been in a way, I've never had an experience that was similar to the way that it's seen on porn, where I've been like oh God yes. Oh, you're like.
Speaker 1:No, no, remember the sound, didn't you practice that? If you ever hear that in bed, do it one more time. If you hear us make that sound in bed, I want you to know. Right now we are faking it. We're trying to get it over with. We're trying to get it over with because we're like they're going to hear the sound and they're going to think that we're almost there and that's going to make them pop off and then we can be like, oh great. Thanks, it's amazing that is. That is not it. No.
Speaker 2:No, and also, if it's terrible for me, I'm just going to.
Speaker 1:I You'll just stop, I mean we're. We're now at the age in which we're just like this gotta stop.
Speaker 2:What can we change that makes this fun and feel good for both of us?
Speaker 1:right, and one of two things is going to happen when we say that. Either the partner is going to be like sulky, in their ego and or they're going to be like yeah, yeah, let's, let's make this fun. So I will say this you need to have lots of lube on hand and a partner that's OK with I mean I want to.
Speaker 2:you need to know this Keep the ceiling fan turned off. Please do. Do not have, you know, an oscillating fan or anything anywhere near the place where you're going to be pounded.
Speaker 1:No, it's true, that little air, that little bit of air, will just dry up our wetness so quick.
Speaker 2:And we work hard for that.
Speaker 1:Like even with lube, yeah, then it gets sticky.
Speaker 2:Yes, and a whole weird texture to it.
Speaker 1:I don't like that. But even if you're super any woman, I don't care what age. If you pound long enough, just because it feels dry doesn't mean she's not excited. You cannot expect us to provide that much.
Speaker 2:Aside from that, when you get to a certain point, sure, things can be lubricated, but if you're going that fast and that furious for very long you're going to develop micro tears in your vagina.
Speaker 1:Nobody wants that.
Speaker 2:That feels terrible.
Speaker 1:Then it can also introduce infections Bacteria right BB introduce infections. Bacteria right BB yeast infections.
Speaker 2:Lube is always good, and so is checking in to make sure that the friction's not too much and breaking down your skin. That's just the kind thing to check in on every once in a while 100%, 100%.
Speaker 1:So I feel like we have provided a pretty good path so far and now I can speak on being pounded and liking it. In my experience, in my journey to experiencing internal pleasure, is this thing the pleasure from something? It's like riding a bike right. It takes you a while to know what it feels like when you are riding a bike right, but the minute you experience it you may fumble again, but it's easier to do it again the second time and the third time and the fourth time. But I think that there are some things that are always and and again I'm saying this, but things change, but but are going to be key to me. A I you know, a cop, that's a good fit helps for sure, but I think more important than that is the emotional intelligence in the other person. Like, I need someone who's emotionally intelligent and who knows how to read my body cues and who can make me feel safe. Those things are important and when I say make me feel safe, I mean I need to feel emotionally safe, I need to feel physically safe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and there's a level of maturity to a person to have those things.
Speaker 1:And there's a level of maturity to a person to have those things Right. And I need someone who's confident and can take the lead in a way that feels like they're sure in that moment because I definitely have to give up a lot of control to get to that place and someone who cares about my pleasure and I know that sounds oh well, we all care, but no, no, you don't. A lot of people don't care about the other person's pleasure, not really.
Speaker 2:When I said earlier, when, you know, just going at it and we've all been with somebody who's on top of us, or you know, just going at it like staring at the wall so intently. You know what I mean, or? Like strained or looking away or yeah, I mean like I could get you a flashlight. I don't even need to be here for this, right, if we're not going to connect.
Speaker 1:We cannot end this podcast without giving our listeners a list of cues physical cues, verbal cues, whatever energetic cues to look for, that signal I mean kind of, but let's signal to stop like this hurts, this sucks, or at least check in with me, or check in with and and or. This is really fantastic. And look, I know a lot of men in particular aren't necessarily good at don't know how to pick up on cues, aren't as intuitive to what's going on with their partner. And also, if you go back to there, I did this episode with a neuroscientist where they've actually found there are differences in the brains of women and men and that men actually have a much harder time picking up the signals that are being put off, where women really are reading everything that's going on with a human at once. So this I have compassion, knowing this may not come naturally to you, but I'm telling you a guy who is good at that is and we can do too Love that sweet spot. But also, if you're looking for these cues, that means you are with us, you're tuned in and that's going to feel super sexy and hot to us. So while you're pounding, here are some like I kind of want, maybe I want to go to pound town from the other end. Here's some things you can look for.
Speaker 1:So, andy, you and I Andy and I are two women with very different bodies, very different sexual preferences. I mean, we're about as yin and yang as you can get right. So I'm going to talk about, I'm going to start with the cues that I know that I give off when things aren't working. One of the things I will do is, well, I'm going to squeeze my hips so that I can keep you from thrusting as far. Now, sometimes what that means is this feels good, but I don't want it so deep. So this would be a great opportunity for my partner to thrust, but not so deep, right?
Speaker 2:Or to ask hey, how's that depth?
Speaker 1:Is this deep enough? Is this too deep, just like if you're a massage therapist.
Speaker 2:How's that?
Speaker 1:pressure, yeah, yeah, and if like. For me, what I like is yes or no questions, so it could be is this too much, slower, faster, and if I say God damn it, because this happens to me a lot and it really bothers me times, too many times throughout my sexual life where I've said yes, not so deep.
Speaker 2:And then, five minutes later, we're right back there. We're right back there.
Speaker 1:And past it Right back there. So if someone says not so deep, then if you want to go deeper, you can say would you like it deeper? Can I go deeper? No, no, then don't Ask. If someone has said it's too deep, ask before you go deeper, because it could be just really fucking painful. That the other thing I will do, especially if I'm on my back and someone's in front of me, I may put my hand out against either the chest or the lower abdomen.
Speaker 2:So they physically cannot get that far. It's like a block. It's like a block.
Speaker 1:It's like a block. If someone's doing that, you can say you can say 2D and then be a gentleman and don't make me keep my hand out to protect against you, because my body is going to follow suit. Right? If I'm having to put my hand out to protect myself, my brain is going to say this isn't safe. Hey, vagina not safe.
Speaker 2:Shut the fuck down.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think you're going to get a ton of cues from me. I think what you're going to get if it's too much and I feel like we're not, I'm going to pull away, I'm just going to move away.
Speaker 1:If she's moving away from you, you, that's not a great sign.
Speaker 2:No, that means we definitely need to check in, but usually it's after I've said already whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1:Too much like right and then, when that's not heated, that's when I just kind of remove myself right, yeah, so the other thing we've talked about here on this show before is the sad puppy tail movement when a woman tilts her hips kind of like a sad dog. You know, this kicked puppy, like tucked tail, that's trying, that's our attempt to close off our vagina, to close off the ability to reach that depth. Do you want to be fucking a woman who's literally?
Speaker 2:trying to get away from you trying to get away from you?
Speaker 1:yeah, not, not at all. I think other things that I know I do when, when it's starting to hurt, is I'll do little. You know gasps suck in breath really quick, really jagged, like I'll tense, like I'll tense up, like I'll tense up. It hurts, yeah, because it hurts, right. Again, your job when that happens is to say are you okay, do you want me to slow down? And I think that it's nice. Another little suggestion I have is go to pound town if you've been invited. What invitation? Look like fuck me daddy, fuck me daddy harder harder.
Speaker 1:Yep, get in here. I don't know, I don't even know what I did I was so like I was so in a different. You're in the space I was in these space. Yeah, bliss space that was. I was blissed the fuck out. I was like so tuned into whatever was happening in my vagina. I was like, oh, girlfriend, what is happening? Oh, what move is that?
Speaker 2:oh, we like that okay well, when my leg is there, I guess that, oh, that's good too when she told me that she got taken to pound town and she liked it, I was so happy.
Speaker 1:I was like oh, oh, yay, I know it's almost like it's time to go celebrate. I feel like I should have a pound town cake made for me. Can we just have a pound town party? I thought it was really cute of me. So the next time I saw him I got these pasties that were tickets little black tickets and in gold it little black tickets and in gold it's a pound town. Perfect, two tickets to pound down. I thought it was cute because I think I'm funny and witty. You know cute, you are funny and witty and cute. This was a different experience. This was a, and I was in a space where I could really explore and I was with someone who was interested in exploring with you yes and open to it and appreciates that ass, or at least at this point.
Speaker 2:Appreciates that ass Yep.
Speaker 1:That aspect of my sexuality, at least for now, you know. And it was good because it's my listeners who've been with me and of course Andy, who's been such an amazing friend in my life over the last year and a half, has have really seen how I have not been in a big exploration space, I've been, uh, healing and growing and really leveling up emotionally and mentally and maybe in in a and when I say I'm not talking about Jesus here, I'm talking about just my spirit, like nurturing and growing my spirit. But I haven't been necessarily embarking on, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think that's what helps you get through. You know we only have so much, we only have so much right, and if you are trying, you can't put 100% into everything. So you have to figure out what your priorities are going to be and divide that. And so exploration for a while was not a priority for you, and now that some other things feel better and more healed and like you have more control of all of those feelings, and like you have more control of all of those feelings, that opens the door to add some more percentages to exploration and fun. So like everything in its time really.
Speaker 1:And I have to say, sort of the irony of this last stretch of my life, while I've been healing and surrounded by just fucking amazing women who have carried me through, then held me up through, then walked by my side through my healing phases, is that the men that I have met and had intimacy with, or experiences with, the men that have been in my life, have treated me really well. I haven't, I mean, can you even think of like in the last year where I've been like oh, somebody's shitting on me?
Speaker 2:No, not at all.
Speaker 1:We don't allow that yeah.
Speaker 1:Maybe allow that, that's because I don't allow that anymore. But you know, this was the first time that I've. It's been a treat for myself just to be like oh, I can play a little bit right now and I can grow and I can have a new experience and I can feel safe. To really look at this specific thing that has not been in my grasp, has not been something that I could enjoy, due to a lot of trauma that I went through and that I was never able to heal. It feels really good also to know that I am healing some deep-seated, long-term trauma not just broken heart trauma, but trauma, lifelong trauma and I think it's a sign of healing. Yeah, Going to pound town and liking it as a sign of healing. I'm going to sell that one, I don't know.
Speaker 1:You think so Seems legit. We're going to say, in my case, for sure.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm ready to try it out. You're like, take me to pound town. I volunteer as tribute. I will let you all know. I will sacrifice myself to see if this works.
Speaker 1:I like that. I would like it too. I like that. You're Andy's missing Pound.
Speaker 2:Town. I'm there, I am.
Speaker 1:Woof, yeah, but I want to say this in closing and wrapping up you don't just go to Poundtown and only stay there. Right, you're in Poundtown, it's part of your arsenal, yes, but then maybe after Poundtowning a little bit, then you do Go to brunch.
Speaker 2:You go to brunch. You go to brunch, you know what.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean brunch, then Take a nap.
Speaker 2:Oh, I was going to say you go back to pound town, okay, and then you take a nap.
Speaker 1:And you throw a nap in there and then you wake up and do it all again. Sounds like the recipe to me 2025. You're really keeping us on our toes.
Speaker 2:I like that.
Speaker 1:I like it too so far. So I would love to hear from my listeners right Like what's your experience with pound town Guys? Guys, I would love for you to weigh in.
Speaker 1:I mean women. You're always welcome to tell me what your experience is from your end with being pounded away at. When is it good, when is it bad? There are definitely times it's been good for a lot of women. I really have never been someone who was excited about that part of sex until recently and now now I'm going to check it out and explore it. So I would love to hear from women. But men, what are you doing up there? What's going on? Clearly looking up at the experience right when you're doing this, what's going through your brain? Something, nothing. Are you looking down at us? What are you? What's what? What's your perspective?
Speaker 2:I'd love to hear it. Are you plowing some Instagram model in your brain?
Speaker 1:Is that what you think? Is that what you wonder sometimes? Yeah, let me know. We'd love to hear from you. As always. I want to remind you I usually do this at the top of the podcast that I am over on OnlyFans and there you are able to find I'm doing some sex and intimacy how-to demonstrations. I am also dropping some guided erotic meditations that will help you in different areas of your own intimacy and pleasure journey. So go there. I'm there under at TalkSexWithAnette. You can also find me on Substack at TalkSexWithAnette. I also am still taking on new clients in the intimacy coaching space. So I work with couples, I work with men and I obviously am working with women who are looking to raise their libido, experience new and different types of pleasure, all sorts of things.
Speaker 1:You can find out more about that on my website at TalkSexWithAnnettecom or you can email me at Annette, at TalkSexWithAnnettecom, and I'll set up a call with you. So pretty soon Andy will come back and tell us all about her pound town experiences.
Speaker 2:Oh, I hope so. I need to get some on the books.
Speaker 1:On the books. So until next time, we'll see you in the locker room. Cheers.