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Vaginal Gymnastics. Tighten Up, Turn On & Take Over in The Bedroom
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Do the sex Think fun, honest and feminist as fuck, and always with the goal of fighting the patriarchy. One female orgasm at a time. Welcome to the locker room. Today's locker room and Shots topic is vaginal gymnastics Tighten up, turn on and take over in the bedroom.
Speaker 1:Before we dive in and I know just by the title alone you're ready to dive in already I need to remind you my desire diaries are live on OnlyFans. Yes, guys, I had to resort to OnlyFans to keep my content alive. My handle is TalkSexWithAnette. This is your exclusive space to check out my erotic interviews, expand your experience with my audio-guided self-pleasure meditation and enjoy my personal sexual journey through sensual photo and video, essays and more. And you never know, maybe I'll share my vaginal gymnastics journey with you there. In addition, I'm also answering your questions and offering personalized intimacy, advice and content. Join me there for a deeper, more personal experience. That's Talk Sex with Annette at OnlyFans. And now let's talk about reclaiming and celebrating your sensual power with vaginal gymnastics.
Speaker 1:I am thrilled to welcome Belle DiLorenzo, creator of the Godess Method, to the show. Her approach to vaginal gymnastics and pompoir is revolutionizing the way women connect with their bodies, enhancing pleasure, confidence and intimacy. So let's get into it. Belle DiLorenzo is the CEO and founder of the Godess and the author of the Godess Method, a book that delves into the art of pompoir, or vaginal gymnastics. Over the years, she has empowered women worldwide by coaching them in this practice, which enhances female pleasure, boosts libido and amplifies orgasms. Her mission is to help more women discover the transformative power of Pompoir through practical, science-backed content and to pioneer advancements in female health research. Welcome, belle, and could you tell my listeners a little bit more about?
Speaker 1:you and how you ended up here.
Speaker 2:Oh well, that was pretty perfect in terms of an intro. But yeah, I always like to say I'm the last person who should own a sex company, because the way that this started was mostly because I was a very precocious child in everything but sex. I was very, very precocious child in everything but sex. I was very much a nerd. I was very much raised in a very Catholic family. I didn't have the talk about sex with my parents and yet I was obsessed with the concept of sex. I really wanted to know about it because obviously nobody was talking to me about it.
Speaker 2:So all throughout high school, all throughout college, I was learning about sex just through reading, just through research, and I would like give my friends who were actually doing this stuff, I would give them tips and have them serve us as like my guinea pigs or something, because I wanted to know what it was like. And you know, I kept reading about this stuff because I was like, when the time comes, I want to be great at it, and so that was my entire sort of formation and it was just reading about this stuff and through my research, before actually doing any of this stuff, I came across this term called pompoir and I came across all of these stories from women throughout history who were allegedly able to control men and drive them absolutely insane by mastering their vaginal muscles, and women like Cleopatra, diane de Poitiers, wallace Simpson, women who were able to completely enamor men with their sexual prowess right and controlling these muscles that we have. But there was no article, no guide or nobody actually telling you how to do this stuff, just these legends and stories from historians of women who allegedly could do them. So I'm like, well, I didn't have anything practical and I'm, you know, I'm a very, I have a very engineering mind. I need a step by step, I need instructions on how to do things, but there was nothing on it.
Speaker 2:Anyway, as time went on and I became sexually active, I had my first, my second boyfriend. It came to a point with my second relationship where sex was just not clicking for us and we don't really think about men as having sexual trauma, but in his case that was something that he had experienced, and so sex for him in his mind was something that wasn't necessarily that pleasurable anymore, and so I, as a fixer in a type A, I wanted to figure out how to fix it, how to make this better for him. So I came back to my research and I again stumbled onto this pompoir practice. Only this time I was like, well, how could I make this actually work? At the time we were in the middle of the pandemic and I was doing.
Speaker 2:I always loved the gym and fitness, ever since I was in high school, and so I was like, well, these muscles, these pelvic floor muscles, surely don't behave as differently as any other muscle that we have? And at the time, because we were in the middle of the pandemic, I couldn't really go to the gym to train. So I was like well, I'm learning all about calisthenics and body weight exercises to do at home. Maybe I can apply everything that I'm learning about muscle biomechanics and fitness components to the pelvic floor muscles and see if I can create my own training when it comes to, you know, this vaginal sort of powers that we're supposedly able to access. So that's exactly what I did. I started applying everything we know about how muscles work to the pelvic floor muscles and I realized, okay, well, the vagina is an orifice and it has muscles not only at different levels of depth or the transverse plane or the vertical axis, we also have a right side and a left side, just like we have a right glute and a left glute. We also have a front side and a back side, just like we have, you know, the, the front pec and the and the back pecs, just like we have in any other muscle. So I'm like, well, how can I isolate all of these different muscle fibers and how can I apply the concepts of fitness to these? And that's how I started putting together my own training and I started training every single morning, 15 to 20 minutes. I started stretching, started doing everything that I knew applied to other muscles, but with the vagina, and eventually I started applying it into sex.
Speaker 2:And that's when things for us took a 180 degree turn. We actually started using the pandemic the way that I really wanted to use the pandemic, which was to have a lot of sex with my partner, and things were just incredible. He, you know, absolutely started seeing sex in a completely new way. We started having sex a lot more often and we started noticing changes. For myself, now, I've always been the higher libido partner, but at that point it was just insane. It was just almost at the point of it being distracting during the day. I couldn't work, because I was just wanting to have sex and pleasure was completely enhanced and I was having multiple orgasms in a row. And I was having weird orgasms as well, like we would be kissing and I would be like, oh my God, I'm feeling all these things that shouldn't happen until much later in the lovemaking session. I'm feeling them now. What is going on?
Speaker 2:And as we started seeing all of these things improve for our sex life, he was the one who said, okay, well, this is a business, because this is something that would benefit a lot more women. Like you're young right now, but like, imagine if you were, if you and I were married for years and the spark had gone out of our marriage. Like this is something that could really help a lot of people. And I was like, yeah, sure, but like I'm not. I'm not like an entrepreneur, I don't know how I have. I don't know anything about this stuff. So what I did is I decided to go back to all of the websites that spoke about Pompoir, but without actually telling you how to do these things, and I started reaching out to people on the comments being like, hey, I think I devised a plan for this. Do you want me to coach you for free.
Speaker 2:And this woman, this graphic designer from New York I remember she was the first one to say, yes, please, I've been trying, I've been looking for this stuff for years, teach Please. I've been looking for this stuff for years, teach me. And so we started meeting up once a week and I would tell her all about these exercises. And she was in a long-distance relationship at the time, so she had a lot of time to train and then she would then meet up with her partner and at the time sex was a problem for them. And after we finished that, we trained together for like 12 weeks and at the end of the 12 weeks they got engaged and I was like, oh my God, all right, great, this is like the first case study we have for this.
Speaker 2:And obviously then what started happening was that she started telling her friends. She started telling her friends about it, who told their friends about it, and that's how the ball sort of started growing, and to the point where I had to start hiring other coaches and coach them myself so that they could coach more women. So that's what we did for a few years until we realized, okay, every time I bring like an image or a visual to our Zoom lessons. They understand things so much easier because obviously these are all muscles that are inside of us, so we can't really show you unless we have sort of like a graphic, and every time I would bring a graphic they would understand things. So I said, ok, maybe the way that this goes forward is we create a course and an animated, illustrated course so that they can be self-paced and that they can do in the comfort of their rooms at their own pace, and that's what I did.
Speaker 2:I started designing and illustrating all of these colorful vaginas, and the whole point of this was because we were teaching a lot of women who were maybe a little bit older, maybe a little bit more conservative. I wanted it to be something that was very sort of classy. I didn't want it to be pornographic, because I felt like so much content out there when it comes to sex can be a little intimidating for a lot of us, and so I wanted it to be something that a woman could train in her room, and if a little kid walked in, the kid wouldn't be traumatized for life from what he's seen. It's just very colorful, very animated, it looks just like different illustrations and very educational, because that's really what helped women understand the different exercises. So that's how our program initiated and started growing from there.
Speaker 2:We started writing articles, we became really big on Reddit, on TikTok, we started a YouTube channel and things kind of progressed from there because we just kept finding out more and more exercises as we continued training women. So I would create new lessons and I would add new content and create new articles. And that's kind of how the snowball effect kind of went. And at the beginning of this year I wrote and I released a book, the Goddess Method, which we call it like that because we have an H after the O in goddess for our business, because, oh, that's the typical orgasm sound that we all so usually hear, and that's been great. It's been a fantastic resource for women which is very, very affordable. And at the beginning of last month we became number one in the US on Amazon. We became a bestseller for like an hour and then we went back to number two. But I took a bunch of pictures in that one hour that we were number one to ourselves, which was, uh, we were obviously really great and uh, and yeah, just things kind of kind of went, uh, yeah, crazy from there.
Speaker 2:And I don't like to throw around the word empowering, uh because I feel like sometimes we use it way more, way too frequently. But this practice really that's what it is, because we have women from all different lanes of life, some women who even experienced trauma and abuse themselves, and they're like. This has allowed me to sort of reclaim my power when it comes to sex, and I don't just have to be, you know, this passive person in the relationship. I can actually build and create my own orgasms and move every single tiny muscle fiber and control things to do whatever I want. And women who are really, really into this, they're doing crazy stuff.
Speaker 2:Like we have this woman in her early 80s and she is in a nursing home and she's wreaking havoc. This woman is like having sex with all the men and she's just telling us, she keeps emailing us about, like, the different exercise that she's doing and she achieved twisting recently and she's doing wringing now and she's doing whipping and squeezing and all of these crazy things and she keeps emailing us about all these things that she's finding out. And it's just, it's just incredible about all these things that she's finding out. And it's just, it's just incredible. So yeah, if I want something to be taken away from this, is that we have a lot more power and agency over our bodies and over our pleasure. And who knew our bodies are designed to please us? And that's that's kind of what this is founded on.
Speaker 1:And that's what the podcast is about. It's like, in beautiful alignment that helping women reclaim pleasure for their own selves and also helping women create a relationship with their vagina. Because we really are raised. I'm also. I'm, I was raised, roman Catholic. We've got two Catholic girls here. I mean I'm no longer Catholic, but that's how I was raised.
Speaker 2:It's such a it's almost like the breathing ground for a sex nerd. It really is.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it's like the virgin birth of Jesus. I don't know what it is, but virgin birth of Jesus. I don't know what it is, but I keep finding that out. Catholic girls.
Speaker 2:We are.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you got to be careful. But I think you know we are taught from such an early age that everything having to do with our vagina is bad, so I think we really create a sever our relationship with our vagina and that by do I can imagine and I do plan on getting the book and doing these exercises and and hearing that there are illustrations and everything like this. This actually is something that would be perfect to put on my desire diaries, because I've had so much trouble putting up content and videos.
Speaker 1:Uh, they'll get taken down off of absolutely youtube not only that, they threatened to shut down my account when I put things like that up. So I have been trying to find a place to share this stuff, like really be able to share it, um, and not be at risk of being shut down, and that that is how I ended up on OnlyFans, because I'm like, all right well it's the only place I can like show the pictures, like you know, give really in-depth personal experiences.
Speaker 1:But I think I can only imagine I've been on my own journey and I haven't done something like this. I've done a lot of self-pleasureasure, though that I've started having crazy orgasms too, like I am confident many, many women from past generations never experienced the kind of orgasms I'm getting to have. So I think this would be a great journey for me to take and be able to share over there and wherever I can to help women and men. So one of the things I did research before this conversation I was telling Belle, I found out about her and we hooked up here before I actually got to get into and through her book. But I did as much research in the time I had as possible. And one of the beautiful things about this, too, is it does enhance your sex with a penis owner or a man if that's who you're with. So, guys, if you're listening to this and you're looking for a gift to give your partner for Valentine's Day, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1:So my understanding is and I want to get back to why I want people to listen to the end of this podcast is that by doing these exercises, not only will the woman become more orgasmic and have a higher libido, but she's gonna like learn how to use her vagina to like give him the experience of his lifetime correct.
Speaker 2:Dinah to like, give him the experience of his lifetime correct. Oh yes, oh yes. That is yeah, that's. It's insane. We it's gotten to a point where we need to. We need to. When I, when I do a TikTok, the way that I usually start them now is women, do not use this on a man that you don't care about, because, trust me, this dude will not stop calling you after this. They will not stop calling you after this. Most women don't know how to do this and once men find a vagina that can do this, it's all over, it's done, they're done for. It's very hard for them to go back. In fact, I was in a podcast the other day where he was interviewing me and he said my ex used to be able to do this and I haven't found that high yet and I don't think I could be with a woman who doesn't know how to do this at this point. I'm like, well, that's kind of the curse of pompoire or vaginal gymnastics is that it's very, very pleasurable stuff and we like pleasure here.
Speaker 1:So, listeners, you're going to want to listen to the end, because now you've got kind of gotten the intro to what this is about. But what we're going to do from here on out is map out sort of we're going to give you some exercises, we're going to talk about the benefits and by the end of this podcast, you're going to have a little starter pack of exercises and you're going to be able to, like this evening, start doing the vaginal gymnastics. If you're a guy, you're going to want to send this episode to your gal as well, and then you can go and get the book or check out the website and figure out how to go to the next step. And I'm really excited about this because I think I've been trying to look for a resolution for my 2025 journey. In 2022, I did 365 days of orgasms and I had an orgasm every day of the year. I feel like this is the natural. Next step to elevating my pleasure is going on a vaginal gymnastic journey. So that is going to be on my list for this year.
Speaker 1:So let's get into it. Let's talk about vaginal gymnastics and better sex. Cheers. Let's do it. Cheers you have outlined. You know. You gave a really great intro to what vaginal gymnastics is about, how you arrived to it, just so that listeners know. Some of you may be hearing about Pompoir out there and I heard about Pompoir first and I had no idea of what it really was about. And just to be clear, vaginal gymnastics and pompoir is interchangeable. Is that correct?
Speaker 2:Correct. Vaginal gymnastics is my way of calling pompoir, that's all it is. It's just because I find it much more visual and intuitive to understand what it is. And it happened because the partner actually the boyfriend of one of our students said it's amazing, she's like this vaginal gymnast in bed and this vaginal Olympic gymnast, and I love that so much that I was like, okay, I'm going to start calling this vaginal gymnastics, that's all, all, all, all, all it is, because I find that that's much more understandable for people.
Speaker 2:To to, to yeah, it's just easier for people to understand. And also it comprises everything that this practice really entails. Just like we talk about different fitness concepts, and that's really what I want us to take away from this is that this is a workout and, just like in any workout, you're going to want to connect with your breathing, you're going to want to stretch. Afterwards, you're going to want to do different things that you would do in a very 360-degree type of training, where we train speed but we train power, we train endurance, we train mobility, we train all of these different aspects of our muscles. So I like the word gymnastics for that reason.
Speaker 1:Right, okay, good, so here's what we know so far, folks we know how this came to be.
Speaker 1:We know the benefits for men, we know the benefits for women and now we know it's a workout. What I want to do for the rest of this episode is kind of put together a mini workout. So I want to start with how we warm up for it, set up for it, the setup. I'm going to have you walk us through the setup and then break down maybe what three, four exercises and how that would look in a workout, how we cool down and that's going to be our takeaway for the guests, for the listeners Sounds fantastic. How do you set up and get ready for a vaginal gymnastic session?
Speaker 2:So the best way that we kind of prepare for it is you want to be in a very quiet space where you can be on your own. You don't have to be naked, you're going to. Essentially, this is not going to look like anything from the outside looking in, it just looks like you being in different poses for a little bit and you don't have to be naked. You don't have to be doing anything odd. It just looks like you're adopting different positions and that is it. So you're going to want to set aside 20 to 30 minutes Monday through Friday. You don't want to work out on the weekends. In fact, we generally recommend that one week of the month you take it completely off. If you have your period, that's a perfect week to take off. But you want to be working out every single day, monday through Friday of the working week 20 to 30 minutes, and 20 of those minutes are going to be active workouts, and then 10 minutes are going to be just stretching out and relaxing your pelvic floor at the very end of your practice. So that's really the setup. The setup is comfortable clothing on a place where you can be alone and you won't be distracted and you feel at peace, where you can be alone and you won't be distracted and you feel at peace and, ideally, generally the best.
Speaker 2:Generally the best time to do it is as you wake up. You know, first thing you do after you wake up. If you can set aside that time, that's generally pretty great. Some women like to do it after they train. You know if they go to the gym every day after that they do their vaginal gymnastics workout. Some women do it right before they go to sleep. I generally try to recommend on the earlier side, first thing you do in the morning. It's a nice way. It's almost like a Pilates class as you wake up. It's kind of a nice way to get in tune with your body.
Speaker 1:I love. It All right, so what is one of the first exercises you'd like to share?
Speaker 2:So the very initial, very, very beginner-friendly exercise that you probably already heard of is the Kegel, the standard Kegel. That is what we call the step zero of vaginal gymnastics. If you're able to do a Kegel, it's a phenomenal exercise to then build strength and then you can do a lot of Kegel variations, which we'll also talk about. But unfortunately, a lot of women don't know how to do Kegels properly because we're not taught how to do Kegels properly. But the way that you would do a Kegel properly is you want to inhale through your nose and as you exhale, you want to lift with your pelvic floor muscles up, as if you were holding your pee. So imagine that motion of holding in your pee and you're sucking into yourself, almost as if you were sucking into a straw. You're pulling in. It's the opposite motion of pushing when delivering a baby or pushing when you're trying to power pee. But a lot of women actually confuse it too and they push out. You do not want to push out. What you're doing is you're lifting up, you're sucking inside of you, you're pulling in, and then you relax again and again. You want to match this with your breathing. As you inhale through your nose, you relax your pelvic floor and as you exhale through your nose. That's when you lift. And this is so that our thoracic diaphragm and our pelvic floor diaphragm are in alignment with our movement. So this is your standard Kegel. Now then you have variations of the standard Kegel that will train different fitness components. For example, we can talk about speedy contractions or speedy Kegels. So, for example, pick a song that has a really fast tempo and try to see if you can match the beat of the song with the different contractions. So if you want to go fast one, two, three, four and see if you can contract and relax, contract and relax, contract and relax and obviously you won't be able to match your breathing there. But what you want to be able to do there is just simply not hold your breathing. You never, ever, ever want to hold your breath while doing these exercises. Just breathe in and out, naturally through your nose as if you were smelling a rose. It's a very gentle in and out breathing, and then try to see if you can do it at a different tempo faster, slower, and that's sort of working through rhythm. In fact, in our program we have sort of like a guitar hero of vaginas, where we have a choreography of different exercises that match the different beats and melodies of the songs that our students really like to perform during sex. So just try to see if you can match your contractions to different speeds and rhythm, because this will train a completely different aspect of your training.
Speaker 2:Then we have what we call eccentric contractions and just like in the other muscle when you relax, or in the negative part of a contraction, that's when your muscles are actually at their strongest. So what I want you to do is inhale and as you exhale again, you lift with your pelvic floor up, you suck in as if you were sucking in through a straw, but then you relax slowly. And I want you to really slowly relax, not relax in one go, but see if you can relax, identifying three levels of depth, identifying the top of your vagina, the middle of your vagina and the very entrance, and see if you can identify those three levels going down. And again you inhale, you exhale and you lift up and as you inhale again, you go down those three levels the top, the middle and the bottom and I'll say you do three sets of 10 eccentric contractions. Now these are actually. They don't feel like they're going to be tiring, but they're actually quite tiring to really slow down on the negative part of a move. This actually builds a lot of strength.
Speaker 2:And then we have something called the milking technique. Now, these are all, by the way. These are all exercises on what we call the transverse plane of motion, so the vertical axis of the vagina, the different levels of depth. The milking technique is one that you can start performing in the bedroom, and it feels absolutely amazing and it's again very beginner friendly for you to get started. Milking involves identifying 10 different levels of depth to your vagina. Now, again, you inhale, and as you exhale, I want you to slowly contract all the way up, and I want you to imagine that you were trying to suck in a marble from the entrance of your vagina all the way to the top, near the cervix, and going through 10 different levels, as if it was an elevator. You want to suck it in and go through level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, all the way to the top until you can't possibly pull in anymore, hold for three seconds and then slowly release back down.
Speaker 1:I'm totally doing these, by the way, just in case anyone's wondering.
Speaker 2:It's super common. So now, what will happen at the beginning is that you won't identify 10 levels. You're like there's no way, like maybe three, maybe five, but there's no way there's 10. But as you continue working through this, you will be able to really differentiate between every single level of depth. It's not that your vagina became longer, it's that you're able to activate the different tiny muscle fibers of each of those levels, much like when people have really developed pec muscles, they can move one and the other in isolation. It's kind of the same with the vagina You're going to be developing all of those tiny muscle fibers and then you're going to be completely able to squeeze and suck and do all of these different techniques at all of these levels of depth. So that's what we're doing with the milking technique. The milking technique really allows you to work out the vagina throughout its full range of motion, from the beginning all the way to the top and again back down, and this will allow you to experience penetration in a completely intensified, enhanced way, because everything will feel. You know how sometimes the first thrust of penetration feels really good, but then the rest you kind of lose sensation. Women who train pompoir what they always say is that I feel like I'm always being thrusted on that first entrance because the entire vagina feels stronger and tighter and more enhanced. So you're always feeling that complete friction all the way, even at the very deep levels, which a lot of people feel like. They say that they don't feel that much. Once you're trained you do feel them really well. So that's the milking technique and the way that I want you to use it in the bedroom once you feel like you kind of can do it, and then you can do it a little bit less slowly. You can do it in a more energetic way. You go all the way up identifying those 10 levels, but not as slow as we just did it and then you hold for a second or two and then you release and you go up and you release, did it, and then you hold for a second or two and then you release and you go up and you release, and you go up and you release. That is what we call performing a vaginal hand job.
Speaker 2:So if you have your partner inside of you, I want you to do the following and this is going to sound a little counterintuitive, but hear me out this is where it's going to feel best when your partner enters you. That's when you want to relax, that's when you want to actually relax your muscles. And when your partner is pulling away, that's when you want to grab him and pull in. Because this is going to do two things. First, as you train your vagina through the week, you're going to become tighter and you're going to almost create more friction and more texture inside your vagina. So what he's going to report your partner is he's going to report that you're tighter but that you're also warmer and that it feels like there's more texture to you because we're creating all of these muscles, we're essentially becoming stronger. So when you are relaxing, when he enters, it's almost like you're putting all of that texture in full display for him to really really create that friction as he goes in. And then when he's pulling away from you, as you take a hold of him by contracting and by pulling, you're essentially creating even more friction, because you're wrapping around his shaft, his penis and you're pulling him in and essentially not allowing him to let go and creating this resistance which just psychologically, imagine what that feels like for a man Like this. Woman does not want me to let go of her. It's incredible. And bonus tip if you're doing this in all fours, tell him to look down, because a lot of men have told us in the comments that there's no sight better than being with your woman when she's on all fours and seeing how her vagina is not allowing you to let go of her. Like it apparently is, like what heaven is supposed to look like and feel like that's it. So that's an added visual cue.
Speaker 2:Now, these have all been exercises that all have to do with what we call the vertical axis, and there's many, many, many more, but those are very beginner friendly. But pompoir, as I said, also works with the left side and the right side of the vagina and the front and the back. So a natural next step, once you understand all of these moves, is to go to what we call the frontal plane of movement of the vagina. So what we just did are all exercises that shorten the vaginal canal. So we lift up and we pull in, we shorten the vagina.
Speaker 2:Now let's see exercises that have to do with closing the vagina, or narrowing the vagina and pressing your horizontal walls together, and that is what we call squeezing, pressing your right and your left wall together to close the vagina horizontally. That's what we call a squeeze. So once it's a contraction, you lift up and one is a squeeze, you press in To squeeze. Squeezing is going to be at the beginning. It's not going to be as intuitive as pulling in, because it's not an exercise that we do on our day-to-day lives, whereas kegeling or contracting or pulling in we do them naturally when we orgasm. We do them naturally when we try to hold in our pee, when we try to hold in a fart, when we exercise. Sometimes we contract much more naturally throughout our week, but squeezing feels a lot more subtle, especially at the beginning.
Speaker 2:So the way that I want you to think about squeezing is I want you to think about squeezing as imagine your vagina is in a completely relaxed state and then suddenly you flex your muscles, you flex your horizontal walls to kind of push them together. It's not a push out, but it's a pressing together of your lateral walls. You're pressing in and try to see if you can activate your vagina that way and then continue through that same motion, continue pressing and pressing, and pressing and pressing until you feel like you can't anymore and then relax. And what that relaxation should feel like is, instead of relaxing down. It feels like you're relaxing horizontally. So you press, you press, you press, you press and then you relax and your vagina naturally goes back into its original shape, where the right and left walls are not pressed together.
Speaker 2:Another good way to understand the difference between contracting and squeezing is imagine that, again, you're trying to grab a marble and then lift it up. So that grabbing motion or that squeeze, it's initially what we would do to grip that marble, it's an activation and then you would suck in to lift it up right. There are two completely different moves One is closing the vagina to sort of grip it into place, and the other one is pulling in to sort of lift it up inside of us. So those are the two motions and I have an entire chapter explaining on the book, explaining the difference between these two key concepts contracting versus squeezing. Because this is sort of the moment where people are like it can feel quite subtle at first and that this is where people get into trouble, but once you understand this key difference between contracting and squeezing, every single other exercise becomes unlocked. Once you can clearly squeeze and differentiate squeezing between contracting, it's the eureka moment of pompoir or vaginal gymnastics. Then everything, every single move becomes available to you. So this is why I spend a lot of time on this difference. I have an entire chapter with a bunch of different cues for this difference between squeezing and contracting, and then what you can do once you understand that squeezing and again you can think of this as exercises from the gym you do three sets of 10 repetitions and you wait one to three minutes between each set. What, then, you can do is you can start combining planes of motion. So we spoke about the transverse plane, or the vertical axis all the contraction exercises and we spoke about the frontal plane. So the vertical axis, all the contraction exercises and we spoke about the frontal plane. So moving the right and left wall. How would we combine the two planes?
Speaker 2:There's an exercise called whipping, and whipping involves closing the vaginal canal or squeezing the vagina, just like we just learned, but at different levels of depth.
Speaker 2:And remember, we just identified in the milking technique a bunch of different levels of depth. And remember, we just identified in the milking technique a bunch of different levels of depth, a bunch of vertical levels of the vagina. So this is squeezing, but at different levels of depth. And again, let's talk about three levels of depth. Let's talk about the entrance, the middle and the top. Once you identify how to squeeze and how to close your vagina horizontally, you can then do the same thing, but only at the entrance. So you only squeeze, but at the very entrance of the vagina, and then you only squeeze, but at the middle of the vagina, where the G-spot is, and then you only squeeze, but at the top, and then you pull all of this together and you squeeze at the entrance, the middle, the top, the entrance, the middle, the top, the entrance and the middle, the top, and then you create this wave-like motion or sensation that we call whipping and that feels amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not there yet. I can't do that. I just gave it a shot and I was like no, I've got the squeezing.
Speaker 2:I don't think I've got the whipping. Yes, yes, yes, yes, can.
Speaker 1:I ask yes, please, can you, because for me I think what would be helpful. I understand you can do this with your clothes on by yourself. You can do these exercises with a partner. Could you also do them with a dildo or a toy that you insert, so that you can feel for yourself what it feels like? Because I have noticed in my own I? I think that because I did that masturbation every day for a year, I could also could not feel anything at the middle, uh, or at the top, where the a spot is, and now my, my vagina is toned enough that I've noticed during penetrative sex, if I, I clearly have the squeezing down, because when I tighten up there it lights up my a spot and that's why I'm having those deep orgasms. So my thought is having practicing this with something inside me I'd be able to feel myself squeeze. I'd know I squeezed up there because it would come against something with resistance I love that, in fact, this is.
Speaker 2:you touched on something key here when I said that, yes, you can definitely do this with your clothes on, but do it in an enclosed space where you won't be bothered. When you first start out with any exercise, your two best friends are going to be your two fingers, better than your partner, better than a toy. Your best friends are your two fingers because your partner is going to love everything you do. They're not going to be very helpful. I remember when I first started putting together the program and sex started getting fantastic, he was anything but helpful. He was like, oh my God, baby, this is amazing. You're incredible. Yes, yes, yes, but tell me exactly what you're feeling. I need to know whether you're feeling this at the entrance, the middle or the top. Do you feel the right side squeezing? Do you feel how I'm doing this? It feels incredible. It feels incredible. That's not. It's not helpful. So your partner is going to love literally everything you do, but they're not going to be as clearly helpful as you want them to be.
Speaker 2:And a toy is going to be great for some advanced exercises, such as when you start turning things inside of you or twisting or moving and pushing it to one side and the other. But for something like squeezing, where what you want is to press against you, you want your two fingers, and there's a clear difference between contracting and squeezing. If you insert your two fingers inside of you, contracting or lifting is going to feel like a very, very powerful pull inwards. Your fingers are going to be wrapped up with your vaginal walls and they're going to be pulled inside of you. Now squeezing when you start doing this pulsing sensation of squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, you will very subtly and gently feel your different walls slowly wrap up against your fingers and then getting tighter and tighter and tighter, but in the same position, not moving up or down, just tighter and tighter and tighter around your fingers. So there's another way to really see that difference and another way.
Speaker 2:Another key aspect of this is squeezing generally is very arousing, much more arousing than contracting on its own. Contracting is fantastic when you have a partner inside of you and you create that friction and that opposing forces that we spoke about with milking. But squeezing, because you're essentially rubbing your walls against each other, it can be very arousing, especially when you then move on to squeezing with your front and your back walls. You're essentially rubbing against your G-spot, so it's just very, very pleasurable. So, yes, I love that you spoke about this. Using your fingers inside of you is going to be the best thing that you can do for yourself when you start any new exercise that you want to master. These are going to be the best at helping you gauge your progress and gauge how you're doing with each move.
Speaker 1:Okay, great. So whipping, is there any? I mean, you've given a massive starter pack. For anyone who's like you know this is a good month's worth of work, or more. Is there anything else you want to? Any last exercise you want to end with?
Speaker 2:Well, we could. We could then move on. We could then move on to side isolations and sort of. We could talk about trying to trying to contract, but only contracting through your left side of your vagina and the right side of your vagina. You can start playing around with that. But I would say, start with these, start with these exercises that we have, because then a lot of things start getting unlocked and then you'll start being being able to do the same thing, but with what we call the sagittal plane, the third plane that we didn't speak about yet, which is the front and the back, and generally this plane is actually easier to master than the frontal plane.
Speaker 2:But I want you first.
Speaker 2:The big thing that I want you to be able to work on this first month is the difference between the transverse plane and contracting and lifting versus squeezing or pressing together your horizontal walls, because once you can do that, you can do everything else in pompoir and you can move on to the sagittal planing.
Speaker 2:You can move on to rocking and shimmying and controlling and twisting and wringing and all the crazy stuff, because these are all just combinations of these three planes of motion in different speeds, in different levels of flexibility, at different targeted zones. But essentially what you start doing is we start identifying 12 unique regions of movement or of pleasure inside the vagina. So you have the entrance of the vagina the right side, the left side, the front side, the back side. You have the middle of the vagina the right side, the left side, the front side, the back side. You have the top of the vagina the right side, the left side, the front side, the back side. So you have all of these unique levels of movements and of pleasure that you'll be able to control, all of those tiny muscle fibers, to do whatever you want with them.
Speaker 1:All right, I love that and let's do that. Let's stop here. This is more than what I even knew we could offer my listeners.
Speaker 1:No, I mean, it's wonderful. It's not overwhelming. Well, I guess for somebody new to all of it, it's definitely a lot to start with. And here's what I'm going to do. I am going to get the book and I'm going to start my own practice with this. I am going to share it on my OnlyFans site, along with I'm sharing over there again guided self pleasure meditations for people who don't know how to give their own bodies pleasure.
Speaker 1:Lots of stuff is going on over there and I think what I'm going to do is people are listening to this episode right now who are like I want to start this, I want to know more about it. I will get my only found site is only $6. I'm making this like low entry level fee, because I do want. This is information I want to get to everybody. So you just have to go to TalkSexWithAnette there and I will track my progress with this, because I think this is going to be a game changer for not only women but their partners, and I mean and regardless of if your partner is another man or another woman like everyone's going to benefit from you being able to experience more and different kinds of pleasure.
Speaker 1:But one thing we haven't spoke to, and so, before we go, I have to imagine this is also going to hugely improve a woman's health, especially as she's going into perimenopause and menopause in later life, because I'm sure you're aware of all of the really harmful things that happen to women who stop not only using their vagina but experiencing penetration and pleasure. The detrimental side effects to her whole health are huge. So could you speak to that a little?
Speaker 2:bit, absolutely. So this training by default will prevent anything related to urinary incontinence organ prolapse. Public flow training is shown to also increase testosterone in women, especially as we age. We have all these problems with our hormones and, yeah, what you don't use, you lose absolutely, and as we grow older and we experience a loss in collagen, we can see this happening very clearly in the muscles. But the great thing that we don't lose is our ability to strengthen our muscles at any age, and I love that medicine is taking this muscle centric approach to it now. That, like muscle for women, is hugely impactful for our health and it's so, so important. So this is just another muscle that you definitely want to work with, even more so because it's directly correlated to your pleasure and obviously, a pleasure of your partner as well. So, yeah, absolutely Absolutely.
Speaker 1:And I can speak to. I went recently in for my regular vaginal exam and prior to all this work I've been doing, I had been having some personal womanly problems and I went in and my doctor was like womanly problems and I went in and my doctor was like, like she's like, what have you been doing?
Speaker 1:Like you are, I don't see any of the issues that we had before. And, um, I'm absolutely 100% sure that it's all. Of you know the self-pleasure stuff I've been doing. I do kegels. I certainly have not done anything to the level you're talking about, but I've definitely strengthened my vaginal walls up to the depth, so I can only imagine that doing this will be a huge benefit to me.
Speaker 2:I'm so excited to see which one's your favorite exercise.
Speaker 1:Well, and so my thought is, you and I will come up with a reasonable amount of time, but we'll come back together after I've done this for a while, and maybe then we can talk about the next level, because I think that this I really believe this is going to be a game changer for my listeners all of them, regardless of gender and I think it helps sometimes to have someone that they know and listen to actually give it a try and report back.
Speaker 2:So let's plan that and I'll give you access to the program as well so you can see all the animations, because we're about to release literally in a week, I'm about to release the advanced program, so we have the fundamentals program that has all of the main exercise of this and all the animations and access to the community and everything. But a lot of women who have been training with us for years are like I want to learn like the crazy stuff, like the stuff that takes months to learn, like bringing a partner.
Speaker 2:So twisting them to one side and the other. So I was like, let's do it. So we did the advanced program that we're releasing in like either one or two weeks. It's going to be up and free for everyone who's already part of the program. One or two weeks it's going to be up and free for everyone who's already part of the program. So I'm going to give you access to all of that as well, because, oh, you're going to love it. You're going to love it. I'm so excited.
Speaker 1:I can't wait to see which one's your favorite. That's great. So I want you right now to tell my listeners, a where they can find your program. B obviously your book, and how they can get in touch with you, stay in touch with you and get involved themselves.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you. This has been great, by the way, and I'm so, I am so excited to follow along your journey as well. I just I can't wait. I can't wait to see which one you like, especially because, since you're already trained in Kegels, you'll be you'll have such an easy time understanding all of the moves. I'm so excited.
Speaker 2:So you can find everything about us at GoDesscom. So G-O-H-D-D-E-S-S this is where you'll have access not only to the book, not only to the Olympus program, which is our flagship course with everything included inside of it. It's a one-time payment and you get access for life to every single update. Again, we have the advanced program in two weeks, but we also next year I'm launching new lessons because we just keep finding out new stuff about this. You have access to me, you have access to the community. We have coaching. Now we have everything that you need, but also we have a lot of free resources.
Speaker 2:So in GoToScom, you will find access to our blog. I write a lot of blog posts. You will have access to our YouTube channel. You'll have access to our YouTube channel. You'll have access to our social media. You'll have access to a free beginner's guide that you can download, which has basically the exercise that we covered in this podcast. So basically that's our hub where you can find access to everything that you need when it comes to our company and Pompoir and everything that we're doing. And my next step is to publish research on this, because I'm working with some doctors that I can't say too much about, but my goal is for the science to be on our side and to understand specifically what is going on inside of us, because we still there's so little that we know. Because, even as I was creating the program, I worked with doctors and pelvic floor physicians on creating the program and even they were like, yeah, I assume like theoretically you can do this, but like we've never been trained on this, because why would we? So I'm like this is, this is crazy.
Speaker 1:Because of women's health. I mean, I don't know yeah.
Speaker 2:What I really want is is to publish research. I really want to publish research on this because I feel like that will get the medical community to take this as seriously as we should be taking this, because there's so many of so many women who come to us who are ready to spend thousands upon thousands of dollars on like vaginoplasties and and testosterone replacement therapy and all of these things, and I'm like wait, you have all the assets you need inside of you to to fix a lot of these issues. So let's, before you go into that perhaps you still need to but like, let's try to see if we can work with what you've got, because there's a lot more agency than you. Then you have a lot more agency than you might think and your body is there to serve you, and that's the main thing that I want to kind of prove with an actual investigation, an actual study on this.
Speaker 1:I'd like to recap you have all the assets you need inside of you and your body is there to serve you.
Speaker 1:I'm just gonna put that in a little caption, guys this is for women, because women, they're making a lot of money off of us by telling us we don't have the assets we need for our own health and our own happiness and our own pleasure. No one is telling us our body is here to serve us as the amazing sexually powerful beings we were meant to be. You've got to regrow that connection and I think that this is like an amazing, an amazing way to get in touch with your own sexuality, but also your own body Again. Don't let people take that connection away. Thank you so much. I'm excited about this.
Speaker 2:This is so in line with my passion, so yeah, it's going to be great, it's exciting, for I'm so excited for you, so I will have you back.
Speaker 1:We'll figure out an amount of time and we'll see. It's a good check-in on my resolution too, and I'm going to dive in all of the way into this and share it to the best of my ability where I can. So thank you for joining me and, to my listeners, I will see you in the locker room. Cheers, cheers, cheers, bye.